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From Anchor Christine Devine

Miley’s Now Talking About Her Memorable Moment. So Are We!

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Call it Miley's moment, our discussion. Truth be told, we had this debate the day after the MTV Video Music Awards but never got to posting the blog. I thought it to be still timely as the starlet herself is now talking about her eye-popping performance more than a week ago.

As you'll see in Miley's statement, she was out to… wait for it… make a statement. "Me and Robin [Thicke,] the whole time said, 'You know we're about to make history right now.'"

Exclusive: Miley Cyrus Breaks Silence Over VMA Performance. 

Girlfriend, well you did it. Mission accomplished. You indeed made history. On that note, my colleague Liz Habib and I are probably in agreement. Other issues, not so much. Here's the fuel and the fire and our initial debate:

CHRISTINE:

I watched the MTV video music awards, every second of it. Being a fan of hip hop I jumped up and down when the self-made Macklemore won the Moonman. I sang all the words to the Justin Timberlake mega-long medley. I rattled off the back-stories of Kendrick Lamar and Bruno Mars. My guy looked on with curiosity. He said "you're like a teenager!" Hardly. My age alone defies that, but I do love Top-40 type music, the hits. Plus, I'm working with a young hip hop artist from my Wednesday's Child adoption program. Because I've been helping produce some works by TEAM WC featuring Nexus I'm a bit of student of current music and music video.

Regarding Miley Cyrus and her eye-opening opening act I had initially refused to fall for it. I saw the trap and avoided it. No, no, I would not tweet about the gyrating, super sexualized 20-year-old who "stole the show" at the VMA's. I would not fuel the money machine. I would not give props on this performance surely meant to shock. That, was until my colleague Liz Habib got me going!

On set, but off camera, the conversation turned into a bit of a debate. My script copy read: "Hannah Montana... It's not! Reaction to the outrageous performance by Miley Cyrus at the MTV video Music awards!" To which, my co-anchor Jeff Michael quipped in a way that perhaps sounded equally judgmental. And that's where Liz Habib came in. Liz, our sports anchor insisted we sounded "old and outdated." The debate from there was on.

LIZ:

I was wondering after watching you and Jeff react at 7pm if you really felt that way, or if you are being sucked in to the social media reaction to Miley.

CHRISTINE:

And that got me thinking. And I found I was a bit torn. First off, I'm the "Wednesday's Child Mama." I work with kids from broken backgrounds which has led me into advocating for the role model. Then again, my fiancé is rock musician(and actor) who gained his fame in the metal hair era(Quiet Riot, Dokken). The hip hop artist and I clash regularly starting with his rap name, Nasty Nexus. His response to the Miley moment: "She is she as I am I so I have no judgment on her."

LIZ:

We have seen enough of the social media phenomenon to know that people hiding behind their keyboard are mean and self-righteous. 

CHRISTINE:

Mean? It's mean to be stunned, shocked, appalled or simply to question the Cyrus show? I think not. She's 20.

Self-righteous? Again, she's 20 and not Gaga's age or Madonna's or even Britney's at the time of "the kiss."

LIZ:

That's right, she's 20 years old. The same age as a college junior.  Hey parents!  Walk into a college dorm because I think you'll see a whole lot of Miley.

CHRISTINE:

To quote my friend actress Allison Arngrim from Little House on the Prairie fame: @Arngrim I think it was "mission accomplished" for freaking out old people.

LIZ:

You know that whole, "what you don't see won't hurt you" thing?  Well, I think Miley just put it all out there for everyone to see. Are we to believe that young girls everywhere would never think of acting like Miley Cyrus did on stage? They might not do it in front of their parents but it's happening.  I'll never forget how upset I got when I first saw a picture of my niece posted on Facebook, wearing a pink wig, backing up to some boy (and yes I mean "backing up"), his arms in the air (that scumbag), his eyes looking down(doesn't she know all boys only think of 1 thing)!  What!!!!    She was just a little baby girl a few years ago! She's not supposed to act like that.  Guess what?  She was younger than Miley.  I was appalled! Disappointed. Couldn't believe my sweet little niece could be doing something like that.  Of course, I thought that she really had no idea what the sexual nature of that was, I mean how could she?  She was just 17 or 18.  But trust me she knows.  So I can relate a little bit to all of you outraged parents.  And please don't go all self-righteous on me now, she is a good kid, who gets good grades, works hard, has self-esteem and comes from a good family.  No name calling please.  You'd probably be surprised, shocked and even appalled at what your own children do when you're not looking.

CHRISTINE:

Isn't that the job of "parents" to be shocked when their babies act less than becoming? My mother would not be applauding me grinding on a 36 year old when I was 20.  So let me just start with that. MAYBE if the singer too was in his twenties we, I, might accept the "that's what the kids are doing" these days argument.

Regarding the public postings of pics like your niece, I would argue this is a changed generation with social networking a sign of the times. Yes, I too danced away at nightclubs and probably would too have tweaked as I loved to dance and knew all the latest moves. However, I didn't/wouldn't dance, grind, tweak and post it all publicly for my mom, grandpa or boss to see. Again, changed times with young peeps posting EVERYTHING. Sounds like your niece has good balance though.

LIZ:

The whole 20 on 36 that is a problem for me.  As for everyone so outraged because their 10 year olds are watching the VMAs and Miley was so inappropriate… Miley Cyrus is not Hannah Montana.  Hannah was gone a long time ago, Miley is clearly pushing every last bit of her over a cliff.   Hey you know what, your 10 year old shouldn't be watching the VMAs.  The VMAs have brought us all kinds of inappropriate material. 

CHRISTINE:

Ah, finally we agree. The VMA's are for young adults and up. The Teen Choice Awards and Kids Choice are for... wait for it... the kids! One concern is that it sends the message that one way to get noticed, be a stand-out, is to turn-up the outrage volume. Miley is a performer makin' the mula($$). Call it "business" if you will. So, who's next, and how do you top it?(Sorry Gaga, ya got beat.)

LIZ:

That's not new.  Elvis, The Beatles,The Rolling Stones, Madonna, Brittney Spears, Adam Lambert.  Someone will top it.  I'm not sure how, but it's the nature of the business.

CHRISTINE:

I guess my style is more Taylor Swift, Jennifer Hudson.(although, note I actually bought Miley's "Fly On The Wall" song on iTunes and thought her video for "Can't Be Tamed" was fabulously fun, not considering her age, 17. And note, I've bought Thicke's music too after seeing him wow at a private party!)

LIZ:

Taylor Swift and Jennifer Hudson are great, but I've never ever had to think this hard after one of their performances.  Bravo Miley. She did a whole deal that looks like a big play on the Rave scene with stuffed animals and a skimpy outfit.  Has anyone been to a Rave!? I'm a reporter, I've seen how teenagers dress and act at Raves.  If you are "outraged" by Miley then you'll have a coronary attack if you see how kids 16, 17, 18. 20 years old, walk into a rave!

CHRISTINE:

Agreed, agreed! But the VMA's have a mass audience not the private confines of a Rave. So, again, a bit shocking for those who haven't been to a Rave and weren't expecting to be taken to one.

LIZ:

As for the big #1 finger and the sexual acts, maybe I've been to one too many college football games.  Add some alcohol in and those big foam fingers have serious potential.  For a whole lot of 20 year olds.

CHRISTINE:

So, you compare Miley's performance to drunk kids acting stupid. Got it! I still think I'd be a tad appalled if my college girlfriend were gyrating on a foam finger, suggesting sex with it and rubbing it up against a man closer to 40 then 20. Just sayin'. In fact, I might be sayin' "girlfriend, we gotta get you home."

LIZ:

20 year old kids act stupid every day.   

CHRISTINE:

Hey, isn't this what the Cyrus/Thicke performance was also about? Buzz equals business. Cha-ching!

LIZ:

How many hard rockers drink whiskey on stage and cuss.  How about the stories of all the rock stars and their groupies?  Why is Miley so shocking but the rappers who degrade women and materialize everything don't get this kind of reaction?  Because we expect it from them!  We have a double standard.  Our young men can be sexual and outrageous.  Our young women "set us back" when they let it hang out.  I am all for raising responsible young men and women who are respectful.  Miley is challenging us and it's uncomfortable.  ART should challenge us.  It should change us.  It should make us wonder why an adult white girl is so offensive to us when she does things and moves in ways we don't expect from girls, from women, who look like her.  Why is she "not allowed"?

CHRISTINE:

Disney star, no more. I get it. However, while Miley has made clear she is shedding her Hannah Montana image I can't help but do a double-take and remember the fun, funny teen-ager young girls could look up to and model. It's not like she is Madonna whom we really knew no other way than as an artist who pushed the envelope.

 

I conclude with CHA-CHING! It's artists making noise, making music, making money. Hey, I date a rock musician and work on projects with a hip hop artist. Between the two of them alone, with their completely contrasting music, I understand art is in the eye of the beholder. And yes, I've declined to tweet and promo a few of their projects too.

But much like Billy Ray Cyrus on his daughter, "I love them and that will not change." And that's show biz!

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